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Friday, September 10, 2004

NPR's and Media Matters' hysteria exposed

There is a joy in life in exposing someone's loony conspiracy theories, elegantly and with style.  My friend Patterico has had a joyous night at the expense of NPR and Media Matters, whose latest theory โ€” that the Freepers who first spotted the dubious CBS News documents must actually have authored and planted them โ€” was exploded like the lightest and shortest-lived of soap bubbles.

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(1) Anachronda made the following comment | Sep 11, 2004 1:11:58 AM | Permalink

It doesn't matter who authored them, if CBS were doing its job they never would have aired.

(2) Al made the following comment | Sep 11, 2004 1:30:22 AM | Permalink

Well, I wouldn't say it doesn't _matter_ who. Someone has an "F" as their middle initial, and has recently taken up using his opponent's initial pejorative nickname. 'Forgin' starts with an F. And this is the second consecutive scandal with document integrity issues.

(3) GT made the following comment | Sep 11, 2004 10:25:34 AM | Permalink

Wow.

Realizing that journalists are human and they can make mistakes is a reason for a joyous night?

Jeez, it seems even that hack Instapundit realized it was not worth mentioning.

(4) vnjagvet made the following comment | Sep 11, 2004 10:33:36 AM | Permalink

GT:

Cheap shot re Insty.

Why show your butt like that?

For the most part you have kept it civil on this and other good sites. Why start this BS?

It almost looks like you are frustrated.

(5) GT made the following comment | Sep 11, 2004 10:37:57 AM | Permalink

Now that's a good one. I'm the one supposed to keep it civil?

LOL

In any case Instahack is just that and even he passed on this story.

(6) vnjagvet made the following comment | Sep 11, 2004 10:55:18 AM | Permalink

Why so testy? When was Insty ever uncivil to you?

Your frustration must be diminishing your clear eyed logic.

(7) GT made the following comment | Sep 11, 2004 10:59:17 AM | Permalink

Yes I admit I am frustrated.

(hanging head in shame)

If only Kerry had a chance!

(8) vnjagvet made the following comment | Sep 11, 2004 11:13:15 AM | Permalink

I'm glad to see hope springs eternal.

Hang on to it.

(9) GT made the following comment | Sep 11, 2004 11:31:20 AM | Permalink

And it's so much easier to have hope when the polls back you up!

(10) vnjagvet made the following comment | Sep 11, 2004 11:58:52 AM | Permalink

But not all do, of course, see, e.g.:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Presidential_04/RCP_EC.html

(11) Al made the following comment | Sep 11, 2004 1:52:20 PM | Permalink

Yes journalists make mistakes. That's granted. But when I think over the number of hours I've spent triple-checking documents and examining galley proofs to catch mistakes (and getting them checked by others), I really wince.

It _looks_ like someone took a comment off a blog that _pointed out_ the time issue - but then failed to go to the primary source. Which was easily available - and had the timezone _on_ it.

I'm starting to wish papers followed the traditions of both science and law - and footnoted everything in sight. If they want to put 'unamed source one', that's fine. But writing articles with one named source, one unamed source (who happens to be the same guy) and an 'expert in the field' who also happens to be the same guy is starting to get on my nerves.

(12) rhodeymark made the following comment | Sep 11, 2004 1:55:21 PM | Permalink

Stuff it GT - we'll say "buh-bye" to you on 11/3 or, I'm sorry - 03 September, 2004 (in cBS-DNC military parlance). Figures an educated buffoon like you would hang on to the thinnest shred of poll data. Wonk on brother! Oh, btw - looks like Insty noted it:
ANOTHER UPDATE: Meanwhile, Patterico notes that NPR and Media Matters can't tell time. Funny that they should both make the same obvious error. (Well, it was really ABC's The Note that made the original time-stamp error, but it was so obvious that picking it up was an obvious error.)
Heh - in your honor?? Or has all the bad news made your spindly wittle finger too tired to scwoll today? Awwww

(13) Robert Crawford made the following comment | Sep 11, 2004 2:08:46 PM | Permalink

GT -- Are you really from Grant Thornton?

Perhaps, if you're going to attack people, you would be wise to stop hiding behind anonymity.

(14) Arvin made the following comment | Sep 11, 2004 6:52:35 PM | Permalink

Slightly OT but I think now might be a good time to remind everyone that Dan Rather has been

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